40 Patty, Nora, Ryder, Kasia, Nic, Joe Check In 25FEB2025
Date: February 25, 2025
40.1 Attendees
- Nora B Pearson
- Patty Burns
- Ryder Anderson
- Kasia Ulanowski
- Nic Jelinski
- Joseph Brennan
40.2 Agenda Items and Discussion
40.2.1 1. Data Entry and Quality Control
40.2.1.1 Pedon Entries Progress
- Approximately 7 people working on data entry
- 5-6 are undergrads who can enter 1-2 per week
- Ava will join with more capacity after completing lab work
- Nora and Ryder discussed the quality control spreadsheet Ryder provided
- The team is making good progress on classifying soils
40.2.1.2 Classification Challenges
- Classifying Human Transported Materials (HTM) is particularly challenging
- Team is developing a taxonomy cheat sheet distilling soil classification keys
- Nora and Ava working on a cheat sheet to help other undergrads
40.2.1.3 Structure in Soil Horizons
- Discussion about recording structure in C horizons
- Nic emphasized the importance of describing morphology first before determining horizonation
- The team should record structures even in C horizons but note whether they are pedogenic or geogenic/anthropogenic
- Ryder clarified that while structure should be observed and recorded (especially in text notes), in NASIS there are some restrictions on recording structure in C horizons
- For the next field season, Patty suggested adding a dedicated spot on field sheets to note geogenic structure
40.2.1.4 Survey123 and NASIS Data Entry
- Clarified that for classification in Survey123, the entire soil name should be entered (e.g., “Fine-loamy mixed superactive mesic typic hapludalf”)
- For series names, the team can make educated guesses, put “unknown,” or use the OSD query tool shared by Ryder
- Kasia will switch from Survey123 to NASIS entry after training
40.2.1.5 Root Limiting Layers
- Discussed what constitutes a root limiting layer (compacted layers, HTM with platy structure, densic layers, fragipans)
- In future field work, team should pay more attention to where roots stop and document this better
40.2.2 2. Soil Taxonomy Questions
40.2.2.1 Super Active vs. Active Classification
- Team confirmed that most soils in the region are superactive, which is a safe default
- Joseph noted that some northeastern Minnesota soils are coming out as active in recent data
40.2.2.2 Anthraquic Conditions
- Clarified that anthraquic conditions in taxonomy are specifically for agricultural areas (like rice paddies)
- Even if soils have anthropogenically-created water tables, they don’t qualify as anthraquic
- The team should still record redox features and note water tables in descriptions
40.2.2.3 Saptohumic Classification
- Discussion about the 1% carbon requirement for Thapto-humic fluvaquents
- Ryder indicated this is likely met in dark A horizons with 10YR 2/1 colors
- Kasia raised a question about Thapto-humic endoaquolls in HTM situations
- Team discussed whether fluvial system requirements apply to various soil classifications
40.2.2.4 Anthropogenic Landforms
- Ryder noted that Randy requires anthropogenic landform designation for all HTM soils
- The available anthropogenic landform options are limited and don’t always fit urban situations well
40.2.3 3. Specific Soil Profile Discussion
40.2.3.1 Weathered Shale Profile
- Kasia presented a challenging profile with a Bw/Bt horizon designation
- The disagreement centered on whether to classify a weathered shale inclusion as a Bt horizon
- Stuart had recommended changing this to represent the material as shale fragments within Bw horizons
- Both Ryder and Patty agreed with Stuart’s assessment
- Calling it an argillic horizon (Bt) would lead to an Argiudoll classification which isn’t representative of the profile
- The team agreed this should be classified as Bw with weathered shale fragments noted
40.2.3.2 River Terrace Profile
- Discussed a second profile closer to the river with similar shale material
- Ryder noted that in cases where shale has weathered to residuum, Bt horizons can legitimately form
- Team agreed the second profile’s Bt and Bt/C horizons were appropriate classifications
40.2.4 4. Additional Resources and Collaboration
40.2.4.1 Geomorphic Regions Resource
- Patty uploaded a spreadsheet to Box with geomorphic regions and potential soil series
- Not a comprehensive list but provides guidance on what soils might be found
- Will work with Joe to share the physiographic/geomorphic regions layer with the group
40.2.4.2 Well Logs and Additional Data
- Discussion about obtaining well logs from Minnesota Geological Survey (MGS)
- Angela is on maternity leave until May; Patty will contact Bill Grimm
- Joe recommended contacting Jackie Hamilton who works with spatial datasets
40.2.4.3 Master Gardener Network for Sampling Access
- Nic met Rachel Kimpton, who runs the Master Gardener volunteer program in Hennepin County
- She offered to help connect the team with ~500 Minneapolis volunteers for sampling access
- This is especially valuable for Hennepin County, which is a more complex area where two glacial lobes cross
40.2.5 5. Next Steps and Action Items
40.2.5.1 Immediate Tasks
- Nora will send Nic the one-pager/flyer for Master Gardener outreach
- Patty will email Bill Grimm about well logs and geological data
- Ryder will consult with Randy about fluvoquentic classification questions
- Kasia will update the problematic pet-on entries based on today’s discussion
- Team will continue data entry work
40.2.5.2 Field Season Preparation
- Update field description sheets to better document anthropogenic/geogenic structure
- Improve documentation of root limiting layers in the field
- Develop better awareness of geomorphic regions during field work
40.2.5.3 Next Meeting
- Scheduled for March 11, 2025
- Note: This date falls during Nora’s spring break; Patty will discuss rescheduling options
40.3 Summary of Decisions
Structure Recording: Record all observed structure in the field, but note whether it’s pedogenic or geogenic/anthropogenic. In NASIS, some structure may need to be recorded in text notes rather than dedicated fields for C horizons.
Classification Defaults:
- Use superactive for most soils in the region unless lab data indicates otherwise
- Use Udic moisture regime as the default, with aquic conditions noted where appropriate (based on Joe’s guidance)
Problematic Profile: The weathered shale inclusion should be classified as a Bw horizon with shale fragments, not as a Bt/argillic horizon.
Data Entry:
- Enter full classification names in Survey123
- For series names, make educated guesses or use “unknown” when necessary
- Document changes made to field designations with detailed notes
Field Methods: For the next field season, improve documentation of:
- Structure type (pedogenic vs. geogenic)
- Root limiting layers
- Geomorphic position
40.4 Appendix: Resources Mentioned
- Quality control spreadsheet (Ryder)
- OSD query tool for looking up Official Soil Series descriptions
- Taxonomy cheat sheet (in development by Nora and Ava)
- Geomorphic regions and potential soil series spreadsheet (Patty)
- Master Gardener outreach flyer (Nora)
The meeting concluded with participants expressing satisfaction with progress and emphasizing continued collaboration and communication on challenging soil classification issues.