42 Patty, Joe, Kasia, Nora Check-in 25MAR2025
Date: March 25, 2025
42.1 Attendees
- Nora Pearson
- Patty Burns
- Kasia Ulanowski
- Joseph Brennan
42.2 Questions from Kasia Regarding Pedon Descriptions
42.2.1 Human Transported Material (HTM) Classification
- Question: When material is moved within the same field (e.g., filling drainage ditches with soil from the same field), should it be classified as HTM?
- Consensus:
- Patty confirmed that strictly speaking, any soil moved from its original location, even within the same field, is considered HTM
- Joe recommended generally treating all human-altered material as human-transported for simplicity
- The team agreed to follow this approach for consistency
42.2.2 Missing Artifact Sheet
- A pedon description notes artifacts (‘U’ suffix) but the artifact description sheet is missing
- This was from early June fieldwork when the team was still learning to document artifacts
- Decision: Keep the ‘U’ notation as recorded and add a text note about the missing artifact sheet
42.3 Diagnostic Features List & Initial Concept Spreadsheet
42.3.1 Anthropogenic Conditions Classification
- The team discussed how to incorporate anthropogenic conditions into landscape categories
- Current approach separates “anthropogenic conditions” from natural landscapes (Anoka sandplain, till, outwash, etc.)
- Decision:
- Keep anthropogenic conditions as a separate section at the top of the diagnostic features list
- Add an “anthropogenic conditions” bullet point within each landscape category
- Users will reference the anthropogenic conditions section when completing descriptions for any landscape
42.3.2 Aquic Conditions Criteria
- Nic previously suggested specific documentation of “depth to common or many depletions”
- Decision:
- Retain “aquic conditions” but add clarifying parenthetical text specifying “depth to common/many redox depletions” as the criteria
- Few and faint depletions would not qualify as aquic conditions
- For some classifications (entisols), over 50% depletion may be needed
42.3.3 Initial Concepts Approach
Patty shared her spreadsheet organizing soil concepts by geomorphic surface: - Organized by geomorphic surfaces: river systems, Anoka sand plain, glacial fluvial (outwash), loamy till, etc. - Within each surface, concepts are further divided (e.g., river systems include soils on risers, dry soils on treads, wet soils on treads, river bottoms) - Spreadsheet includes columns for diagnostic characteristics: slope, surface texture, aquic conditions, drainage class, etc. - These will help differentiate between concepts and establish ranges for each
42.3.4 Working with HTM-Affected Soils
- Each native soil concept may have HTM-affected variants
- Team will track the thickness and prevalence of HTM across sites
- If enough HTM-affected examples exist in a particular concept, they may create an “HTM-affected phase” for that concept
42.3.5 Concept Boundaries and Categorization
- Joe noted that concepts will naturally have overlapping characteristics
- Some diagnostic attributes may be more important for differentiation (e.g., aquic conditions)
- Drainage classes will vary by landscape. For example, wet in a sand/gravel landscape may correspond to moderately well-drained, while in a till landscape it may be poorly drained.
- The team will refine concepts as patterns emerge from the data
42.4 Modeling Discussion
42.4.1 Using Diagnostic Features in Modeling
Joe explained how diagnostic features are used in modeling: - Each pedon represents a point on the landscape with measurable features (e.g., depth to aquic conditions) - Models correlate these features with environmental covariates - Different diagnostic features can be modeled separately (depth to aquic conditions, depth to carbonates, lithologic discontinuities) - These separate models can then be stacked to build a final classification - Not all diagnostic features would be modeled, but collecting a comprehensive list allows flexibility
42.4.2 Potential HTM Modeling
- The team discussed potentially modeling HTM distribution based on:
- Land use intensity
- Distance from known contributors to respread
- RUSI (Rapid Urban Site Index) variables collected during fieldwork
- LiDAR measurements of distance to roads/buildings
42.5 Project Status and Next Steps
42.5.1 Pedon Entry Status Update
- Approximately 90 pedons have been entered into NASIS
- About 90 more pedons remain to be entered
- 50 pedons have been entered but not yet transferred to the Excel spreadsheet
- Kasia has been processing many of these entries
- The team aims to complete all entries by the end of April
42.5.2 Next Steps for Concept Development
- Nora will start populating her version of the diagnostic features spreadsheet, working with pedons that have been QC’d by Ryder
- She will focus on one geographic area at a time to better identify patterns
- Patty will continue refining the rule-based ranges for each concept
- The team will remain flexible about adding or modifying concepts as they analyze more data
42.5.3 Geomorphic Surface Guide
- Patty has edited the Region 10 geomorphic guide to focus on landscapes relevant to the urban project
- This will help keep geomorphic descriptions more uniform
- The guide includes a flowchart to help users determine which landform classification to use
- This will be especially helpful for undergraduates who haven’t been to the sites and don’t have easy GIS access
42.6 Additional Resources
- Nora and Ava have created a “cheat sheet” with relevant soil taxonomy information
- Joseph mentioned the Illustrated Guide to Soil Taxonomy as a helpful resource
- The Survey123 guide contains linked resources used by the team
42.7 Upcoming Meetings
- April 8th meeting with Randy at 10:30 AM (replaces regular small group meeting)
- Patty will contact Randy about possibly rescheduling as Nora will be at soil judging competition in Texas
- Potential alternative date: April 15th
- Next small group meeting: April 22nd (Earth Day) at 9:30 AM
- Nora will send a new Zoom link for this meeting
42.8 Action Items
- Kasia:
- Email Randy or Ryder with specific questions about the missing artifact sheet
- Continue processing pedon entries
- Nora:
- Meet with Nic separately to gather input on diagnostic features list
- Transfer the 50 entered pedons to Excel
- Begin populating diagnostic features spreadsheet with QC’d pedons
- Add Patty’s edited geomorphic guide to the team’s resources
- Put taxonomy cheat sheet into Box and share with Patty
- Send new Zoom link for April 22nd meeting
- Patty:
- Add “depth of organic matter/organic matter depth” to concept spreadsheet
- Add clarification about “common/many redox depletions” to aquic conditions
- Talk to Randy about potentially rescheduling the April 8th meeting
- Upload edited geomorphic guide to Box
- All:
- Continue refining concepts based on data patterns
- Identify areas where additional concepts may be needed